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Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on April 28, 2010, 08:29:02 AM
Just a hello to anyone who might stop by this forum.

(http://images54.fotki.com/v544/photos/9/1608999/8416446/APPLES1-vi.jpg)

Charlie V.
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: GeorgeBest on April 28, 2010, 11:22:46 AM
Charlie,

I was wondering if everyone had given up on this forum.
Until Spencer decides to support the forum I'm not starting new threads, but will respond to postings if any are made.

 Nice plate of apples from 2004.  Not sure how our crop will be this year, as I don't think we had very good weather during pollination time.

George
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on April 28, 2010, 12:27:05 PM
Hi George,

I see your posts from time to time on the tractor list.  I am still reading my monthly W.A.I.T.  Thanks again.

I do not know Spencer, but as in the past I still have to come to his defense.  I guess Spencer did eventually achieve a temporary fix to the picture problem (although I did not find an option to post the apples directly to this forum without a link, as we could previously).  Aside from that about all he can do is improve the visibility of this forum from the ATIS page.  My feeling is that it is up to the users to keep the threads active and interesting so readers and posters will want to visit.  It is apparent that folks on the tractor lists prefer lists to a forum, as has been stated numerous times over on the general list. Beyond that, this forum is like a new little supermarket across the road from a Wally  World super center.  The competition from similar long established forums is overwhelming.  As Ralph Goff has stated, he gets more bang for the buck on a couple of those forums where he has participated for several years and has a number of long established buddies.  There is nothing wrong with that and many people have limited internet hours to devote.

Having said that, I had hopes that this forum might become the hang out for at least ten or twelve regulars where chat could occur enjoyably in a cozy atmosphere  and perhaps without some of the knuckleheads the more active forums seem to attract.  I guess that is not happening.  I do not assign blame for the existing status .  Life is what it is.

Good to hear from you,

Charlie V.
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Gene Dotson on April 28, 2010, 07:09:19 PM
Hi Charlie;
Good to see some life here. I check almost daily for any new threads. Disappointed most days though.

My apple trees are in full bloom right now and starting to drop the petals. Had a frost this morning, so don't know it it will damage them. It was 32 degrees this morning. Cherry trees bloomed over 2 weeks ago and starting to show small fruit. Will try to get the trees all sprayed tomorrow

Been a busy spring for me and don't even have any crops to plant. Got all mine in wheat. Just got caught up with the mowing today. The rain over the weekend really woke up the grass. Been working on my hay wagons. Got 3 ready to go and building a new bed for the fourth one. Don't really need 4 but the running gears were cheap and just need a little torch and welding work. Guy I bought the 2 gears from has another that I will get. May get them all fixed and put a couple out for sale.

Had a little mishap on Monday. Was helping am Amish man load scrap matal on my trailer when he pushed on his end and knocked me backward off the traile onto my back on the manure covered concrete. Must have hit mostly on my left shoulder, so it has been pretty tender last couple of days. No serious damage though. Maybe the manure helped cushion the fall.

Let's get this forum woke up!!!!!

Gene in De Graff, Ohio
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on April 29, 2010, 07:42:02 AM
Hi Gene,

It sounds like you are working too hard.  Best wishes on a fast recovery of your shoulder.  You should stop letting people push you around like that (grin).  I used to move items from time to time with the help of a man who was such a bull that he would push me all over the place along with the item and did not even know he was doing it.  It sure was a lot harder than having two guys working together.  From the few prices I have seen on hay wagons, your work there is most likely a worth while endeavor.  I would like to see a picture of the new Hickory floor when done if you can.  I am not a woodworker, but I really like all wood products.  

I mowed lawn twice in April so far.  The rain you had on the week end was here Monday and Tuesday so we have not dried up enough yet to mow again.  Along with that the wind has been up to 40 MPH and not too friendly.  My tractors have been ignored this month.  I have some extra cars and trucks to part with, so as much as I am able, I have been trying to get some of them more salable.  My work time is limited because I am still wimping around with the w/o hip joint.   At any rate, with the beautiful weather we have enjoyed for much of this month, it is just wonderful to be out of doors.

You may have seen this before, but here are a couple of shots of the new White Oak deck which I installed on my trailer in '07.

Charlie V.

(http://images52.fotki.com/v640/photos/9/1608999/8358118/floorboards-vi.jpg)

(http://images26.fotki.com/v894/photos/9/1608999/8358118/newfloor-vi.jpg)
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: GeorgeBest on April 29, 2010, 04:32:07 PM
Good to see a little life here.  I also check the front page almost everyday to see if there are any new postings.

I am glad that Spencer did fix one of the photo problems so I can now upload pictures again.  But I still think it is poor having a front page that he set up and then never made it relavent to the forum or gave anyone the permissions to update anything.  **** poor support if you ask me ;-)

Last weekend I hired a Mexican to help me clear all the blackberries out from behind my polebarn and help gather up scrap metal to donate to the club I belong to.  I think he thought it was going   to be a big job since the berry patch was the full width of the 60' pole barn and went out a good 30 to 40 feet behind the barn.  Had a couple tractors, buzz saw, tractor parts, junk, etc. that were covered over.

He was a bit surprised when I brought the Bobcat with grapple rack around and started ripping out the berry vines and building a burn pile.  Super handy for removing blackberries and unwanted brush.

I'll have to look and see if I have any pictures to post.

George
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on April 29, 2010, 10:17:49 PM
Pictures, George, pictures and more pictures.  In case anyone hasn't already figured it out, I like pictures.  I hope that someday before I reach 90 years of age I will learn to read the words too.

Charlie V.
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: GeorgeBest on April 30, 2010, 10:41:36 AM
Charlie,

I remembered that I already loaded a picture of the Bobcat with grapple rake in my photo album.
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on May 01, 2010, 08:18:03 AM
I do remember this picture, George.  That unit looks like it will do a stroke of business.  The operator looks pretty well at home in the machine as well.
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Gene Dotson on May 01, 2010, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: Charlie V;1208
Hi Gene,

It sounds like you are working too hard.  Best wishes on a fast recovery of your shoulder.  You should stop letting people push you around like that (grin).  I used to move items from time to time with the help of a man who was such a bull that he would push me all over the place along with the item and did not even know he was doing it.  It sure was a lot harder than having two guys working together.  From the few prices I have seen on hay wagons, your work there is most likely a worth while endeavor.  I would like to see a picture of the new Hickory floor when done if you can.  I am not a woodworker, but I really like all wood products.  


Charlie V.

I remember the pctures when you posted them earlier. Nice looking floor. White oak is not real common in my area and local sawed is usually spoken for. Red oak and black oak is more common here and I have some nice ones in my woods.

I finished The wagon floor and rear standard this morning. Turned out pretty well for using warped and unevenly sawed lumber. I will get some pictures this afternoon and post them on Photobucket and my photo album here. Need to learn how to post with my messages, but am intimidated to learn.

Shoulder is doing much better. Still a little tender when my arm is extended out front. Works fine elevated or down. Just have to remember to drink my coffee with my right hand.

Gene
Title: Reply attempt
Post by: RG8800 on May 23, 2010, 11:57:48 AM
Well its good to see some activity here finally. I had not checked in for about a month. Been nothing happening for so long that I quit looking and spent most of my time over at red power or new ag talk. Not that I've had any time to spare for most of this month. Between anhydrousing and planting crops its been long days in the field for me.
Gene, good to see your recovering from that fall with no serious injuries. Falling on concrete is always bad. I think I permanently injured my back some 12 years ago when I fell backwards off my seed drills and landed across a steel pipe. Trying to move a little slower and more carefully as tilme goes by.
Charlie, those apples look great and ours (crabapples) are starting to bloom here.
I took this pic of the planting equipment a week ago while filling up the air seeder.
(http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=83144)
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: DaveErnst on May 23, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
My three apple trees were in fulll bloom a week or so ago, but yesterday and today it's snowing!
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on May 23, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
Sure will be a nice courtesy if you keep that cold West of the Mississippi, Dave.  We are promised temps pushing 90 later this week.  I do not need it that warm, but do not want to see snow much before December.

Charlie V.
Title: Cold here too
Post by: RG8800 on May 24, 2010, 02:16:34 AM
Quote from: Charlie V;1224
Sure will be a nice courtesy if you keep that cold West of the Mississippi, Dave.  We are promised temps pushing 90 later this week.  I do not need it that warm, but do not want to see snow much before December.

Charlie V.

 
It was cold here too. I finally got the little JD lawn tractor going for the overdue first cutting in the yard but it was so cold that I had to dress up for winter. Parka and earflaps. Hands were so stiff from the cold when I finished. Last week it was so hot that I couldn't wait to turn on the AC in the tractor. Today I'd have appreciated a cab and heater on the lawn tractor. :confused:
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on May 25, 2010, 07:39:18 AM
Very nice picture, Ralph.  I am sure some air seeders are used in this area, but I have never seen one.  With the field size we had when I was a kid, the rig you have there would have been in two lots at the same time. (grins).  There was a lot of ground being planted here last week.  I suspect much of it will grow into corn.  The winter wheat looks to be growing well.  I notice several places where first cutting alfalfa has already been taken off.  Usually first cutting hay is mid June to third week.  The alfalfa I saw down and being cut looked to be only about a foot tall but very clean, so maybe that is what the early cutting is all about.  I have cut lawn six times so far and that is above normal, so it is a good growing year here.  The weather guy claims we are down one inch of rain from average, but most things are ahead regardless.  The warm temps have pushed everything along.  My thermometer was parked on 88.4 most of yesterday afternoon and that is not exposed to any sunshine.

Charlie V.
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Gene Dotson on May 27, 2010, 08:26:19 AM
Interesting observation made yesterday. I took my airplane to Muncie, Indiana to have radios installed. A flight of about 70 miles. On the trip home in the afternoon, I was able to watch several farmers planting corn and soybeans. Saw several of the big air seeders at work. The big seed hoppers on these units really stand out from 3500 foot altitude. Also saw other large conventional planters also working. Large farmer that farms the ground next to me runs 2 , 48 row planters. One set up for corn and the other set for soybeans.

The last couple weeks in eastern Indiana and northwest Ohio has been wet. Not heavy rains, but frequent rains to keep the soil just a little too wet to work. Hay crop has been early by about 10 days with ideal drying weather this week. Mowed my hay on Sunday and baled it Wednesday. Got about 300 bales from the 3 1/2 acres.

Gene
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: RG8800 on May 28, 2010, 01:44:34 AM
Much the same here Gene. And more rain on the way. I"m thankful to be nearlly finished but that last 40 acres is still calling me. With more rain falling and forecast for the whole weekend I guess it will be June before I have a tractor in the field again.
Yes the big air seeders/drills are impressive. A neighbour has one that is over 70 feet wide. Holds about 650 bushels and takes a good big tractor to pull it. Makes my little 28 footer with 115 bushels look like a toy.
(http://hotimg23.fotki.com/a/142_165/25_114/SeedingwheatMay8.jpg) (http://hotimg23.fotki.com/p/a/142_165/25_114/SeedingwheatMay8.jpg)
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Gene Dotson on May 29, 2010, 05:11:51 AM
The ground right around my area has dried out and the tractors and planters are rolling again. Corn planting not completed is probably too late and soybeans going in now. Area northwest of me in Auglaize county got a heavy shower on Thursday night, so after 2 or 3 good days, they are on hold again.
Wapakoneta is hosting the Buckeeye Farm Antiques show thise weekend, so the grounds were muddy for the first half day on Friday, but the mud dried up nicely by noon and rest of the day was nearly ideal with temps in the low 80's and a light breeze. A real nice show and good turnout of exhibitors, vendors and spectators.

Gene
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on May 29, 2010, 09:40:06 PM
It was a surprise to see a 50 or so acre piece of ground this evening in the next county south (actually only about four miles away)  with the corn not only sprouted, but nice even plants 6-8 inches tall.  The ground was a gentle hillside which probably drains well enough to be early ground.  Nice to see, anyway.

Charlie V.
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Gene Dotson on May 30, 2010, 11:29:54 AM
Around my area, the early planted corn is doing very well. The Amish are even cultivating their early planted corn. The first week in May was a great week for planting. The ground was dry in the tillage zone and plenty moisture below. We have not had any really hard rains, just nice growing rains. Just enough to keep the equipment off the ground fir the last 2 weeks. Now that it has dried, all the late farmers are working hard to get caught up. Seems we always lose 2 weeks in May due to rains. Has been like that the last 5 years. The past week was ideal weather for making hay. It is about 10 days ahead of normal and yielding very well. I have a couple custom jobs to get done this week. Hope the weather holds off, but forecast is for a couple of days of rain this week.

My sweet corn is doing well. Up at about 5 inches. Planted some popcorn Friday. Daughters both got automatic corn poppers for Christmas and I told them I would grow some for them. Planted enough for 10 families if it all grows.

Happy Vets Day to all.

Gene
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on June 06, 2010, 09:42:52 PM
Here are a few pictures of local crops taken today, June 6, 2010.  My camera went senile again, so the dates on the pictures were not correct.  We have seen 2.8 inches of rain here in the past 36 hours.  With two or three days of sunshine, I suspect these crops will take another jump.

Charlie V.

Corn
(http://images53.fotki.com/v1610/photos/9/1608999/8701750/CornJune6-vi.jpg)

Winter Wheat
(http://images53.fotki.com/v546/photos/9/1608999/8701750/WinterWheat-vi.jpg)

Second Cutting Alfalfa
(http://images114.fotki.com/v1605/photos/9/1608999/8701750/SecondGrowthAlfalfa-vi.jpg)
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: DaveErnst on June 11, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
Charlie, what are you doing to get the larger picture displayed?
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on June 11, 2010, 09:58:13 PM
I size them first, then upload to Fotki, Dave. From there I link them to here with "insert image" from the little toolbar above.  I have a step by step written up.  Let me know if you are interested and I can e-mail it to you off list.

Charlie V.
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: RG8800 on June 12, 2010, 04:41:46 PM
Crops are looking good there Charlie. Too much rain here and only about 70% of the crops in Sask are planted. The rest might not get planted as it is getting late and the fields are wetter than we have seen them before. Wonder how it will affect the auction sale prices? Just spotted this Cockshutt 428 combine selling today in Alberta. You don't often see a 50 year old combine looking that good right off the farm.
(http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/31858/2078801860032927439S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2078801860032927439JOYbaw)
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on June 12, 2010, 09:20:04 PM
That one sure looks like it spent it's life stored indoors, Ralph.  Since Grant ( I think it was) on the tractor list mentioned that older combines are hard to find in California, I tend to notice them when I see them locally.  Here is a list of those posted lately on Craig's list.  Seem to be more than normal available.

  Jun 9 - Allis Chalmers Combine -  $500 (Honeoye/Bristol)  pic

  Jun 3 - JOHN DEERE 400 COMBINE - $2200 (Penn Yan) pic

  May 21 - GLEANER "F" COMBINE grain head - $800 (spencerport) pic

  May 7 - 7720 John Deer Combine, four wheel drive - $15000 (Bloomfield,NY)

  May 2 - 1965 Bidwell #37 Combine - $100 (Bergen, NY) pic

  May 2 - GLEANER F COMBINE - $1200 (Spencerport) pic

  Apr 23 - John Deere Combine -1970's - (Bergen NY)

  Charlie V.
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Gene Dotson on June 13, 2010, 07:50:57 PM
Nice combine picture Ralph. Don't see them here in the midwest. About what year would thet have been made?

Been wet here in western Ohio for the past week. Have had about 4 inches of rain since last Saturday. Figures, I mowed about 6 acres of hay I do on a custom job a week ago Friday, got 1 1/2 inches of rain on Saturday and  Sunday. Couple showers on Monday. Thursday thought it was dry enough to rake and then rerake the windrows on Friday and bale in the afternoon. Guess what? 1 1/2 inches of rain early Friday morning then another half inch on Saturday. Today was hot, humid, but sunny. Maybe we have the wet spell behind us.

I was in eastern Indiana last weekend. They were much wetter there thay we are here. Lots of water standing in the fields. Still a lot of ground to be planted there. Went to an auction there and we were wading in soupy mud. Only 4 wheel drive trucks chanced parking in the field and they were leaving tracks. Fortunately it was a wide road and people could park on both sides without impeding traffic. I came home that evening and hoed my garden. Needs it again but too wet right now. Forecast looks like if we get past Tuesday we should be out of the woods.

Hoping to go to a sale on Wednesday. Be my luck the hay will be ready to bale then.

Gene
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: RG8800 on June 16, 2010, 05:15:55 PM
Quote from: Gene Dotson;1244
Nice combine picture Ralph. Don't see them here in the midwest. About what year would thet have been made?



Hoping to go to a sale on Wednesday. Be my luck the hay will be ready to bale then.

Gene


Gene, that 428 Cockshutt was the last of the low mount engines , after that they went to top side engines. Much easier to work on. I'd guess about 1960 was the last year for that 428. Seems to me I have seen some painted yellow like this one. Been a long time since you could buy a new combine for under $7000.
(http://hotimg23.fotki.com/a/142_165/24_17/Cockshutt428price.jpg) (http://hotimg23.fotki.com/p/a/142_165/24_17/Cockshutt428price.jpg)
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Gene Dotson on June 17, 2010, 08:35:44 PM
Didn't make it to the sale last night. Stayed home and mowed grass instead.

 Just as well as I have been looking for a haybine and there was one at this sale. Never been able to buy one at auction. Picked up the local county booster and was one for sale a lot closer. Called the gut about 6:30. Must have still been in bed as he didn't answer the phone, but called back just a few minutes later. I was there by 7:30 and it is a pretty decent New Holland 479 Haybine. Good rolls, cutter bar, tires and sheet metal. Wrote the check for $1200.00 and after a struggle, we finally got it on the transport lock. Hooked it behind the Jeep Grand Cherokee and towed it home. Boy, does that take up a lot of road with the 9 foot cut. Didn't get any mailboxes though. Took county roads and very little traffic.

My main concern was if my Case 700 would have enough hydraulic power to raise it. I took off the 3 inch cylinder and replaced it with the 3 1/2 inch cylinder from my cultimulcher. With engine just above idle, it picked it right up. Hoses are even the right length. Only need to check it over and give it a good grease job and be ready to cut hay.

My second cutting alfalfa is really growing fast and starting to bloom now and about 15 inches high. Hope to get that in before July 4, but predicting more rain from Sunday through Wednesday.

The custom hay job is still on the field. I reraked the windrows this morning. Still standing water in the field and a lot of the hay was still saturated uderneath. Just have to work th higher, drier parts of the field to get anything baled. 5 inches of rain the last 10 days is not good for down hay.

Gene
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Gene Dotson on June 17, 2010, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: RG8800;1245
Gene, that 428 Cockshutt was the last of the low mount engines , after that they went to top side engines. Much easier to work on. I'd guess about 1960 was the last year for that 428. Seems to me I have seen some painted yellow like this one. Been a long time since you could buy a new combine for under $7000.
(http://hotimg23.fotki.com/a/142_165/24_17/Cockshutt428price.jpg) (http://hotimg23.fotki.com/p/a/142_165/24_17/Cockshutt428price.jpg)

Ralph;

I don't recall the Oliver model sold here in the states. I am thinking it may have been a model 42 or 420. A few of the smaller models, the 2XX series were sold here. Later model with the high engine were more popular, especially the 4XX series. This became the White 7300 like I have. 2XX series were considered 2 row machines and the 4XX were 3 and 4 row machines. Combines here were typically sized by number of corn rows they could handle after they started harvesting corn with them.

Gene
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: RG8800 on June 17, 2010, 10:48:22 PM
Gene, at the time Cockshutt was selling the 428 series I believe Oliver was marketing their own design combine which was a totally different machine. Once the top engine models came out, like the Cockshutt 431, I think Oliver was a part of the same company (White) and then Oliver combines were just green painted Cockshutts.
Now this old ad from the late 40s shows a "real" Oliver at work.
(http://hotimg23.fotki.com/a/142_165/24_194/Olivercombinead.jpg) (http://hotimg23.fotki.com/p/a/142_165/24_194/Olivercombinead.jpg)
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Gene Dotson on June 17, 2010, 11:01:43 PM
Ralph;

I am always amazed at your library. Glad you are able to keep us on the right road. Guess it took the Cockshutt design to put Oliver in the combine business. I was very disappointed when White sold the rights to the rotary combine to Massey. Massey, now Agco, has really made a market with this design.

Gene
Title: Fruit Of The Earth
Post by: Charlie V on August 22, 2010, 08:25:43 AM
Quote from: DaveErnst;1222
My three apple trees were in fulll bloom a week or so ago, but yesterday and today it's snowing!

 
Just an update on the apple situation in 2010.  While in one of the NYS fruit belts near the south shore of Lake Ontario yesterday, I grabbed a couple of pictures of this years crop on the trees.  Sorry for the lack of color in the pictures.  It was a heavily overcast day.  I do not know if these are sauce apples or eating apples, but they still make me want to pick one and bite in.

Charlie V.


(http://images112.fotki.com/v590/photos/9/1608999/8701750/orchard1-vi.jpg)

(http://images114.fotki.com/v970/photos/9/1608999/8701750/orchard2-vi.jpg)