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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 22, 2008, 09:18:27 AM »

I had sent an email to Henke Mfg. and asked if by chance they had information on my machine. While not having any information on my machine, Back in the archives Mr. Hood (Henke representative) found some photo's of interest. I thought I should put them up on the forum.

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 22, 2008, 07:32:57 AM »

It can't burn that much fuel! It's like a recent discussuion I had with a fellow about his boat, if he can afford the boat, he can afford the fuel. If not he'll be affording a for sale sign!:rolleyes: We have already talked about limiting trips to our clubs show--but I'll save that discussion for another thread.

       Other than the county fair, I've pretty much made up my mind to stay home and work on tractors.  Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 20, 2008, 06:04:03 PM »

You know, a pretty paint job and then take it to a tractor pull to keep the track level would be a good way to go with this one. Might have more folks watching you than the tractor pull itself!:)

Its definatly neat and will hopefully be an eye catcher....I would like to have it at a tractor pull.....but I wonder if I could afford the price of fuel to run it very long:confused::eek::mad:

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 20, 2008, 05:59:19 PM »

Hah! Thanx Danny!, I finally made it! Geez they seem to hide this forum. Grader looks great, even has the drawbar on her yet.
Does it run? Overall, it looks pretty straight. One picture shows a double edge blade. Is that right?
I hope it all comes together for you.
Larry NE IL:)

No, not running yet. It is loose though. I was trying to plan my attack on it. I think maybe I'll first get it running, to see what the engine is going to need. Rings etc. The entire grader will need to be taken off though so I can replace the tractor frame The cylinders will need to be sent off because the pistons are rust pitted. I might as well send out the pump and control valve as well.  
    Yes it is double edge......I'm going to have to start taking steriods....dagone everything looks heavy and awkward on the dern thing.
       

:DGlad to see you made it Larry. There's a good bunch of guys hang out here

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / Oliver Grader

« on: May 18, 2008, 10:48:38 PM »

I unloaded the Grader today and put it in the shop where it is now drip drying. Sorry the rain didn't allow me to take any pictures to post.

While in the shop I did a little more investigating on the machine and I'll post my findings.
-------------Its a 1948 Oliver 70    serial# 261128G  this would be the last year they made 70's (if memory serves me well)

The Grader attachment is made by Henke Manufacturing Co. out of Janesville, Iowa.  I found a website for them and they are still in business in Kansas building snow plows.

http://www.henkemfg.com/henke_history.html

The hydralics are by Hydreco out of Cleveland Ohio and they to are still in business. Based now in Charlotte, NC.

http://www.hydreco.com/index.htm

While studying the Grader I discovered on the right side frame rail "USA" was welded into it upside down. Then a few inches over towards the front, In a sort of fancy fashion "S  SIONI  77" was welded into it< right side up.  I figure S. Sioni is probably the fella who put it together and 77 was his employee number. Probably USA was welded into it while still on the ground.  It would be neat to know the whole story behind it.


      I think I'm going to try and contact the 2 companies still in business and see if they have any info. on this machine or even info. on their company during that time and their "partnership" with Oliver.

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 18, 2008, 12:25:53 AM »

I was able to pick up the Oliver Grader this afternoon. Here are a few pics of it and hopefully tomorrow I'll take some more after its unloaded. I'll use this thread to keep everybody updated on my progress with it.  I have my work cut out for me:eek:...but I love it:D

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 13, 2008, 10:45:50 PM »

I do not yet have the grader home (probably be this weekend) but I thought I'd comment on something else I learned with Oliver 70's. I had the chance to bring in one of my donor tractors to strip down..... Too the point here, usually when removing the engine I leave the bell housing in the frame. Pivot the engine up and it will slip right out and let the bellhousing stay in the frame. The reason is because I've broken too many frames trying to pull those stupid pins out.

        This time I took the engine out the same way but decided to see if I could get the pins out and save the bellhousing. I of course removed the throw-out bearing and pilot shaft, threaded a bolt into the supid pin and started beating it in....the stupid thing popped right out and into the b'housing. All the time and frames I wasted trying to pull them out when I should have been beating them IN. As easy as that....who'dathunkit  :confused:

Hope this helps others

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 12, 2008, 10:14:52 PM »

yea, My plan is to go the whole nine yards on this one. Its rare or different enough to get the works. Whenever I start calling something rare usually a zillion others turn up.
      I'm a little baffled with the serial number or maybe I learned something. The Industrial 70's serial number starts with 4, the rowcrops start with 2. This one has 2 at the beginning of the number. I guess I learned that they numbered them by the style of tractor not by its purpose. If that makes any sense:confused: I am certain its the original engine and tractor.

I am also planning on dragging home my Oliver top soil elevator. Its a rather strange piece as well. They both will be the same color paint and so I'm going to try to restore them both at the same time....TRY i say

I'll definately post before, during and after pictures of both projects.  That would be pretty cool:cool: Maybe others will do the same with their projects

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 11, 2008, 09:29:09 PM »

Well its officially mine:D  The one I have is yeller and in about the same shape as the one pictured. One of the fenders is in need of repair, I guess it blew off going down the road. But the fender skin looks alright. The tractor frame was cracked and repaired. Again I believe I have enough parts 70's to find a frame to put on it.

It now sits 3 miles or so from the house. I should be gettin' it here next week. Then I'll take a few pics of it and pur 'em up.....Boy, I just can't wait to start dipping my greasy paws into this thing;):p

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 10, 2008, 06:53:22 PM »

Well you know how it goes working through somebody. I do think its mine though. Here is a picture of one like it. Kinda neat. huh

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / New toy(I think-hope)

« on: May 09, 2008, 10:01:52 PM »

I have on the hook an Oliver 70 grader. I was told by somebody who knows somebody who has one for sale. The price is right and I said I'll take it but thats as far as we've gotten. I haven't reeled it in yet. Like I say "It aint mine till its mine"

I must have a soft spot for 70's as it seems they almost dominate my collection. Almost every shape, size and axle configuration. If there's one that looks a little different from what I already have, I'm prone to buy it.  I also have a soft spot for attachments. Whether it be pickers, planters, cultivators or as with the 70 grader, an attachments that will turn a common tractor into something entirely different.

So I guess you can tell I'm pretty excited to just hear there's one not far and for sale. Now I just hope here in the near future it'll be residing in my shed.

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / Tool Descriptions And Uses

« on: April 15, 2008, 09:07:06 AM »

TOOL DESCRIPTIONS AND USES

DRILL PRESS:
A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, denting the freshly-painted book case which you had carefully set in the corner where nothing could get to it.
WIRE WHEEL:
Cleans paint off bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprints and hard-earned calluses from fingers in about the time it takes you to say, "Oh sh--...."
ELECTRIC HAND DRILL:
Normally used for spinning pop rivets in their holes until you die of old age
SKILL SAW:
A portable cutting tool used to make studs too short.
PLIERS:
Used to round off bolt heads. Sometimes used in the creation of blood-blisters.
BELT SANDER:
An electric sanding tool commonly used to convert minor touch-up jobs into major refinishing jobs.
HACKSAW:
One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes.
VISE-GRIPS:
Generally used after pliers to completely round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.
WELDING GLOVES:
Heavy duty leather gloves used to prolong the conduction of intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.
OXYACETYLENE TORCH:
Used almost entirely for lighting various flammable objects in your shop on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside the wheel hub out of which you want to remove a bearing race.
TABLE SAW:
A large stationary power tool commonly used to launch wood projectiles for testing wall integrity.
HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering an automobile to the
ground after you have installed your new brake shoes, trapping the jack handle firmly under the bumper.
EIGHT-FOOT LONG YELLOW PINE 2X4:
Used for levering an automobile upward off of a trapped hydraulic jack handle.
E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR:
A tool ten times harder than any known drill bit that snaps neatly off in bolt holes thereby ending any possible future use.
BAND SAW:
A large stationary power saw primarily used by most shops to cut good aluminum sheet into smaller pieces that more easily fit into the trash can after you cut on the inside of the line instead of the outside edge.
TWO-TON ENGINE HOIST:
A tool for testing the maximum tensile strength of everything you forgot to disconnect.
CRAFTSMAN 1/2 x 24-INCH SCREWDRIVER:
A very large pry bar that inexplicably has an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end opposite the handle.
AVIATION METAL SNIPS:
See hacksaw.
PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER:
Normally used to stab the vacuum seals under lids or for opening old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splashing oil on your shirt; but can also be used, as the name implies, to strip out Phillips screw heads.
STRAIGHT SCREWDRIVER:
A tool for opening paint cans. Sometimes used to convert common slotted screws into non-removable screws.
PRY BAR:
A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part.
HOSE CUTTER:
A tool used to make hoses too short.
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.
MECHANIC'S KNIFE:
Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on contents such as seats, vinyl records, liquids in plastic bottles, collector magazines, refund checks, and rubber or plastic parts. Especially useful for slicing work clothes, but only while in use.
DAMMIT TOOL:
Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage while yelling "DAMMIT" at the top of your lungs. It is also, most often, the next tool that you will need.
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I thought this was worth a laugh

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / Wall Street Journal

« on: April 13, 2008, 12:56:02 AM »

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120769876086199765.html?mod=autos_feature_articles

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / Wall Street Journal

« on: April 12, 2008, 08:54:17 PM »

I agree. I just said it was a surprise.  Some of the auctions I've attended has shown to be interesting to say the least.  scrap men seem to be paying premium on parts; radiators, hitches, etc...you know silly stuff. Then you go out in the field and see a more or less parts tractor maybe should sell for at tops 500. Well better add another 2000 to that. Just for the discussion the next tractor is painted, runs and looks alright Should bring 2500 but only brings 1500. And then those guys paying new price for really stupid stuff like used chicken wire....my heads still spinning trying to figure 'em out   :confused:

Danny

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'round the pot-bellied stove / Wall Street Journal

« on: April 10, 2008, 09:34:28 PM »

It was a bit of a surprise to open up the WSJ and find old iron.

Danny