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Miscellaneous Forums => 'round the pot-bellied stove => Topic started by: RG8800 on January 03, 2010, 05:48:31 PM
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Since we are into the year 2010 here is a picture of a friend's JD 2010 tractor back in the late seventies. Home built 3 point hitch that he used to run his 7 foot snowblower with.
(http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/28835/1057026252032927439S425x425Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1057026252032927439ntwmTw)
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Local hardware and J.D. lawn equipment dealer has a 2010 row crop setting on the sales lot. Didn't bother to get out of the truck for a closer look. It did look pretty decent though.
I would worry about the color contrast in my barn.
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Since we are into the year 2010 here is a picture of a friend's JD 2010 tractor back in the late seventies. Home built 3 point hitch that he used to run his 7 foot snowblower with.
(http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/28835/1057026252032927439S425x425Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1057026252032927439ntwmTw)
How about going the other way with a 10 20.
Charlie V.
(http://images52.fotki.com/v639/fileumke/3ea26/9/1608999/8287354/1020.jpg)
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Good looking 10-20 Charlie. Is it yours? Is this one too? I only know it was a McCormick when I took the picture at an auction sale a few years ago.
http://hotimg25.fotki.com/a/142_165/25_55/april23sale.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Well, fotki linking just won't work for me tonight so I'll leave it up to your imagination. :mad:
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This is some of what amazes about you guys, it's late 70's, here is a tractor for snowblowing, but where is the cab. I agree, it looks way cooler that way :cool: That and all those tractors without 3-point.
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Good looking 10-20 Charlie. Is it yours? Is this one too? I only know it was a McCormick when I took the picture at an auction sale a few years ago.
http://hotimg25.fotki.com/a/142_165/25_55/april23sale.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Well, fotki linking just won't work for me tonight so I'll leave it up to your imagination. :mad:
Sorry your picture would not come in, Ralph. Yes, that is my 1930 10-20 when I took it to a parade in 2007. You may notice from how low I sit on it that it is an orchard tractor. It has four of the five orchard features offered on those tractors. I still have not gotten to my 1927 to get the motor free, but someday. The 1927 is on all steel. I have steel for the rear of this '30 also, but will not put it on unless the current rubber tires give up. They are very old, so I try to keep the sun from them as much as possible. I am hoping that if you see enough pictures of this 10-20, it will tempt you to drag your 15-30 in and start fixing. (grin)
Charlie V.
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This is some of what amazes about you guys, it's late 70's, here is a tractor for snowblowing, but where is the cab. I agree, it looks way cooler that way :cool: That and all those tractors without 3-point.
Great to see your post here on the forums, Mattias. An 8N ford with no cab was my only snow plow for about 10 years. I can recall at times plowing while having on a helmet with a snowmobile face shield because the wind driven snow would sting my face so bad. I will post a picture of the Ford as soon as I have time. When people are young, you just do what you have to do. Everything is too expensive for the budget when one is bringing up a house full of kids. Now I sit on my lazy behind in a heated pickup truck when I have to plow snow. Not yet necessary this year. It just keeps blowing away,
Charlie V.
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This is some of what amazes about you guys, it's late 70's, here is a tractor for snowblowing, but where is the cab. I agree, it looks way cooler that way :cool: That and all those tractors without 3-point.
Mattias, 3 point hitch was a rarity to find on a tractor up til maybe 20 years ago when the newer models of utility tractors started showing up with it. Up til then the only ones I saw were the little Ford 8 and 9Ns. When my Dad bought the McKee snowblower we looked long and unsuccessfully for a suitable tractor with three point and ended up building one to fit the Cockshutt 40 we already had in the shed. No cab of course but we dress up warm and if its really bad out there, just wait for it to warm up.
The 2010 in the picture did not come with factory 3 point. The owner built his own from various parts and it worked just fine.
(http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/45714/2508416770032927439S425x425Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2508416770032927439BFnoQt)
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It is much nicer to just live where a snowblower isn't necessary!!:)
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Mattias, 3 point hitch was a rarity to find on a tractor up til maybe 20 years ago when the newer models of utility tractors started showing up with it. Up til then the only ones I saw were the little Ford 8 and 9Ns. When my Dad bought the McKee snowblower we looked long and unsuccessfully for a suitable tractor with three point and ended up building one to fit the Cockshutt 40 we already had in the shed. No cab of course but we dress up warm and if its really bad out there, just wait for it to warm up.
The 2010 in the picture did not come with factory 3 point. The owner built his own from various parts and it worked just fine.
(http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/45714/2508416770032927439S425x425Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2508416770032927439BFnoQt)
Ralph, why is the right rear tire mounted backwards?
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Hi John,
I am going to guess that the reversed tire gives at least one wheel better traction when backing with the snow blower. Combined with the use of wheel brakes, that could be an advantage. It seems I remember something about another reason perhaps to do with plowing, but it will not come to me right now. I guess I will wait for Ralph to inform both of us.
Charlie V.
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(http://images112.fotki.com/v1534/filefS5i/d9091/9/1608999/8287354/reartires.jpg)
Here is another set with the right tire on backward. I bought the tires mounted on the wheels, installed them on the tractor and painted the wheels. It never occurred that commercial tread might have a direction pattern. If you look closely at the deep tread cuts, they do. When I made the observation of one on backward, I decided it will stay thar way.
Charlie V.
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Hi John,
I am going to guess that the reversed tire gives at least one wheel better traction when backing with the snow blower. Combined with the use of wheel brakes, that could be an advantage. It seems I remember something about another reason perhaps to do with plowing, but it will not come to me right now. I guess I will wait for Ralph to inform both of us.
Charlie V.
You are right Charlie , about the traction advantage, but it did not happen intentionally. I had a new tire installed back in the 90s. I had taken a spare wheel in to the shop and left it for them to install. They installed the new tire going the same direction as the existing (old) tire was. It happened that that wheel was originally on the left side of another tractor, therefore it turned out to be backwards for the right. I wasn't going to complain about it as I figured the traction advantage would help snowblowing.
I dont' see a whole lot of difference on the little John Deere Charlie. Those tires don't appear to have a right or left .
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It is hard to spot, Ralph, and that is how I overlooked it. The tires have a set of V notch tread cuts that are about twice as big as all of the other cuts. They go around the tire just like an inverted ag. bar tread would and in one direction only. After I eventually noticed these, I checked the sidewalls for a direction arrow. Sure enough, they do have an arrow to designate forward rotation. Looking at them is almost like one of those game puzzles where now you see it, now you don't. The best place to see the pattern is looking straight on the tread about 1/2 way up the back side. Then you may spot the V pattern of wide grooves. I posted this particular picture to post because once noticed, the pattern jumps right out at you.
CharlieV.
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I am sending a reply to my own post again. I did a little looking on the net, Ralph. If this link will work. you may be able to see the tread pattern more clearly. This is the tire type shown in my picture.
Charlie V.
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/commercial/agricultural/tyres/gtr_farm_serv_dia.aspx
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Charlie,
Thanks for posting the picture. It wasn't till you pointed it out that I could the right tire was on backwards.
It is pretty obvious once you know the tires are in fact directional.
Wondering if all tractor turf type tires are directional or if some of them are non-directional.
If I ever get some turf tires from my Farmall A mowing tractor, you can be sure I'll look them over closely before mounting them.
Thanks.
George
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During harvest here in Ohio in 1973 the ground was very soft. Was able to get over most of the fields, except in the low wet spots. Many farmers mounted the wheels backward to go as far into the wet areas as the tires would allow. With the tires reversed and better traction backward, they were always able to get out.
Gene
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I see what Charlie means now about the directional tread on that "turf" tire. I recall the old custom combiners used to put one combine tire on backwards to help them back out of a muddy spot while harvesting. Not sure just how much help it was.
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The truth of the matter is that it would not be a big job to remove the right tire from the rim and turn it around. Everything is fairly new and not rusted, so it should come apart easily. However, the tractor is merely a toy and will most likely never do any work so traction is not an issue. If I can keep my mind from worrying the situation just because it is "not right", it will be fine just as it is. For now, as long as the tire holds air and carries the tractor around, it is doing what I needed when I bought them. I had no intention of putting on turf tires to begin with, but these turned up at a price I could not pass up, at a time the L was sitting with one rotted out flat tire and rim. Opportunity knocked.
Charlie V.